Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

02/21/2008 03:30 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ HB 274 UNIV. REPORT: TEACHER TRAINING/RETENTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SCR 17 BRAIN INJURY AWARENESS MONTH: MARCH 2008 TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 50 CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 274-UNIV. REPORT: TEACHER TRAINING/RETENTION                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:01:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  274,  "An  Act relating  to  a  report  to  the                                                               
legislature  on teacher  preparation, retention,  and recruitment                                                               
by the Board of Regents of the University of Alaska."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:01:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE HAWKER,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,                                                               
informed  the  committee   that  HB  274  is  the   result  of  a                                                               
recommendation   brought  forward   by   the  Joint   Legislative                                                               
Education  Funding Task  Force.   He  noted that  Representatives                                                               
Roses and  Seaton, members of  the committee, also served  on the                                                               
task force.   This bill began  as a discussion about  the lack of                                                               
coordination, or  communication, between the legislature  and the                                                               
University  of  Alaska  (UA)  on  what UA  is  doing  to  prepare                                                               
teachers  to enter  the field  of  teaching and  to retain  those                                                               
teachers in Alaska.  House Bill  274 asks UA to prepare an annual                                                               
report  to  the  legislature   titled  "Alaska's  University  for                                                               
Alaska's Schools,"  that describes the efforts  of the university                                                               
to attract, train, and retain qualified public school teachers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  continued to explain that  the report will                                                               
include an outline of the  university's past, current, and future                                                               
plans  to   close  the  gap  between   known  teacher  employment                                                               
vacancies  in the  state and  the number  of state  residents who                                                               
complete teacher training.   He asked the  committee to carefully                                                               
consider the following testimony from  UA officials, that was not                                                               
available at  the time the  bill was written, that  suggests that                                                               
the goals of this bill are already being accomplished.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:04:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER asked  whether  the  bill's sponsors  are                                                               
looking  for  the requested  information  in  a certain  form  or                                                               
simply for review.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  responded that his interpretation  is that                                                               
the  sponsors  are  looking  for  a tool  to  create  a  specific                                                               
discussion document in order to  foster communications with UA on                                                               
this subject.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER surmised  that  the  information that  UA                                                               
already has could  be combined into one document and  there is no                                                               
need for new research.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:05:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  observed that the  bill has a  zero fiscal                                                               
note.  He  inferred that the bill  will not require UA  to do any                                                               
additional work.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  deferred the question to  a representative                                                               
of UA.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT PITNEY,  Vice President, Budget  and Planning,  University of                                                               
Alaska,  informed  the committee  that  the  Budget and  Planning                                                               
office  is  the  source  for   much  of  the  university's  data,                                                               
including,  and beyond,  budget requests.   She  stated that  the                                                               
intent of  the bill  is to  create a dialog  between UA  Board of                                                               
Regent's  members and  the legislature,  beginning  in the  first                                                               
month of  each session.   Ms. Pitney  explained that,  because UA                                                               
already  does  several  reports,  including  the  Alaska  teacher                                                               
supply and demand  report generated every two or  three years, it                                                               
will not require  additional money to comply with the  bill.  She                                                               
provided an  overview that describes  pertinent activities  by UA                                                               
including  schools   of  education  at  Juneau,   Anchorage,  and                                                               
Fairbanks, each of which provide  different programs ranging from                                                               
baccalaureate  and master's  degrees to  secondary programs.   In                                                               
addition,  the Institute  for Social  and  Economic Research  has                                                               
issued a  report on how  many teachers  are graduated by  UA, how                                                               
many become  teachers, and how many  stay in the workforce.   Ms.                                                               
Pitney  indicated that  UA provides  30 percent  of the  teachers                                                               
that the  state needs.  The largest areas  of need  are secondary                                                               
teachers  of  science,  technology,  and math,  and  for  special                                                               
education teachers.   Furthermore, the turnover  at rural schools                                                               
is very high.   She opined that a request  from the committee for                                                               
this  report would  suffice, but  passing a  law provides  UA the                                                               
opportunity for dialog with the  legislature about its efforts to                                                               
reach its goals.   Ms. Pitney recalled that, in  FY 08, there was                                                               
a re-allocation of funds that  allowed the addition of faculty at                                                               
the University  of Southeast (UAS).   This bill would  provide an                                                               
opportunity for dialog  with the legislature, not  only about the                                                               
budget, but about programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PITNEY  spoke  of the  elementary  school  program,  "Future                                                               
Teachers of Alaska,"  that was developed in  partnership with the                                                               
school  districts  and  the Department  of  Education  and  Early                                                               
Development.    This  program  aims   to  raise  teaching  career                                                               
awareness   with   elementary   and   middle   school   students.                                                               
Furthermore, the teacher mentoring  program, again in partnership                                                               
with DEED,  is supporting  300 teachers  around the  state during                                                               
their first and second years  of teaching; master teachers travel                                                               
to  the  new  teacher's  school and  have  been  instrumental  in                                                               
raising the  retention rates.   She stressed  that the  bill will                                                               
give a  formal opportunity for the  UA Board of Regents  to share                                                               
information   about  these,   and   other,   programs  with   the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  expressed her concern  that instructors need  to go                                                               
to Bush schools in order  to better prepare students for teaching                                                               
in rural  areas.  Many new  teachers are hired to  teach in rural                                                               
areas and do not have the skills to be confident.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:14:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PITNEY pointed  out that there is a  rural practicum program,                                                               
initiated  in  2007,  that   provides  two-week  to  one-semester                                                               
internships  in rural  schools.   This is  a costly  program, but                                                               
will  provide  the  needed  prospective to  new  teachers.    She                                                               
stressed that  UA must  provide not  only training,  but teachers                                                               
who are  willing to take the  jobs that are available.   There is                                                               
interest to expand the internships  to one year; however, lengthy                                                               
internships are an obstacle to some students.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:16:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked whether education  students are taught to deal                                                               
with anger management.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PITNEY  said she  would defer  questions about  curriculum to                                                               
the dean.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES recalled his  membership on a committee that                                                               
researched  teacher enhancement.   The  group ultimately  created                                                               
the statewide mentorship program and  also looked at the terms of                                                               
the  programs  and  determined that  the  master's  degree  would                                                               
include  six   weeks  internship   in  rural   school  districts.                                                               
Representative Roses  opined that the data  needed should include                                                               
what UA  has determined to be  the obstacles to expansion  of the                                                               
program, such as  the difficulty of transferring  courses.  Also,                                                               
there  is  not  enough  capacity within  UA  to  accommodate  the                                                               
incoming education student's needs  for specialty courses such as                                                               
science and math.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:20:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PITNEY  expressed her belief  that the report required  by HB
274 would provide updates on improvements  that UA has made.  She                                                               
acknowledged that  the transferability of credits  between majors                                                               
will always be a problem.   Ms. Pitney assured the committee that                                                               
she  will respond  to  any  student's problems  of  which she  is                                                               
informed.   Turning  to the  obstacles  listed by  Representative                                                               
Roses, she  said that  UA is  subject to  state policy  and these                                                               
issues will  be best solved  by dialog with the  legislature, the                                                               
EED, Alaska Post  Secondary Education, the Department  of Labor &                                                               
Workforce Development (DLWD) and  other related policy units. She                                                               
cited wage inequities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  stated her support of  the bill should                                                               
UA be  requested to  look at its  efforts to  supplement, produce                                                               
and retain  teachers to  work in  Alaska. She  said that  she was                                                               
open  to   a  different  discussion  regarding   pay  grades  and                                                               
retirement; however,  the fiscal note  attached to HB  274 refers                                                               
to  a  joint  report  and  indicates  that  that  there  are  two                                                               
different   purposes   to  this   bill.      She  expressed   her                                                               
understanding that this bill will ask  what UA is doing, with the                                                               
dollars  invested  by  the  legislature, to  meet  the  needs  of                                                               
teachers  and  teacher   retention.    Representative  Fairclough                                                               
supported  the value  of the  two separate  and distinct  issues;                                                               
however, this legislation will accomplish the first.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:25:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PITNEY expressed  her  support for  the  larger and  broader                                                               
question.   She  agreed that  the legislation  is focused  on the                                                               
results  of UA  programs and  investments with  the understanding                                                               
that it is not the whole picture of teacher retention in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:25:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   pointed  out  an  omission   in  the                                                               
structure of the document.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:27:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON noted  the omission.   She  then stated  her belief                                                               
that the  bill should  call for results  and improvements  in the                                                               
Schools  of  Education  programs.     Chair  Wilson  opined  that                                                               
legislators  want  changes  in  what  is  being  taught  and  how                                                               
teachers are prepared.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:28:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PITNEY  explained that accreditation reports  are mandated by                                                               
the  state Board  of Education  and Early  Childhood Development.                                                               
Accreditation  of   schools  of  education  requires   a  certain                                                               
curriculum and  follow-up and outcomes  assessment.   She invited                                                               
the committee to ask accreditation  questions of the deans and of                                                               
the faculty;  however, this subject  may not  be at the  level of                                                               
the  dialog  between  the  Board   of  Regents  members  and  the                                                               
legislature required by this bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON   spoke  of   another  state's   requirements  that                                                               
professors "go out."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES noted that  the education task force dropped                                                               
this subject,  but recommended the reestablishment  of a standing                                                               
committee  on  education,  or  subcommittees  in  each  body,  to                                                               
thoroughly  investigate education  issues.   When enacted,  early                                                               
forward  funding will  allow the  opportunity for  legislators to                                                               
analyze the  education system.   He  pointed out  that HB  274 is                                                               
just one  of the recommendations  to reach  the goal of  a closer                                                               
look, by the legislature, at educational issues.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER responded  to Representative  Fairclough's                                                               
question about  the omission  in the document  and said  that the                                                               
omission  will be  handled by  the  revisor when  the statute  is                                                               
incorporated into law.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed testimony on HB 274.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:33:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON recalled that  the education task force was                                                               
a  funding task  force and  a number  of issues  were brought  up                                                               
during  discussion.   He  expressed  his belief  that  this is  a                                                               
subject  for overviews  that should  be presented  to the  future                                                               
standing committee  on education.   With a  zero fiscal  note, he                                                               
opined that  this legislation will  not do much.   Representative                                                               
Seaton said  that he was reluctant  to have UA generate  a report                                                               
that does  not receive due notice  and  he recommended  that this                                                               
issue be assigned to the  new standing committee.  Representative                                                               
Seaton  said  that  further  conversation   between  UA  and  the                                                               
education committee  will be more  in depth  and that he  did not                                                               
support this legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  suggested  that  the  committee  wait                                                               
until the senate bill is referred.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:36:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  clarified that  he is not  indicating that                                                               
the bill should  be held for leverage; he stated  that his intent                                                               
is that there is a need  for a standing committee on education to                                                               
address this issue in detail.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES pointed  out that the report will  be to the                                                               
committee, not  to the entire  legislature.  He stated  that this                                                               
bill will accomplish the objective by requiring this report.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:38:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON commented  that some  discussions should  go before                                                               
the  main  body  in  order to  better  inform  legislators  about                                                               
matters  such as  social service  and education.   She  announced                                                               
that the  bill would be held  and expressed her belief  that this                                                               
bill "will not get us where we want to be."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:39:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON pointed out that  many reports are given to                                                               
legislators  and  are then  filed  away;  overviews presented  to                                                               
committees are  a better way  to relay information.   He surmised                                                               
that the sponsor agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:40:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  offered his belief in  the appropriateness                                                               
of creating  this dialog; however,  he said  that this is  a rare                                                               
bill  with a  single  committee of  referral,  and he  encouraged                                                               
erring on the side of caution.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:42:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 274 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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